Here’s how it went…. As we mentioned, we narrowed down our options to three: Dark Walnut, Ebony and Jacobean. Birch has pink undertones. I’m about to make a few frames with pine and I’ll definitely be getting the conditioner now! SO SO SO SOOOO helpful!!! With stain, more layers likely wouldn’t help because the wood is still supposed to come through. Thank you again for all the time you put into keeping the general public informed. This was a great post!! It takes a stain well, is durable, inexpensive, and a good cabinet choice. The cherry does not ‘show’ where any of the doors are. I am literally holding off on my cedar plank wall project until I can find a freaking can of it somewhere in the universe lol. Stain Gallery. I love when you really get into DIY builder posts. We hope you feel welcome and maybe find inspiration, because we should all love where we live.". Wow, I didn’t realize that about sanding! 128/228 Medium Brown. like you said, i wish you could do more colors (was crossing my fingers i’d see provincial on here! Thanks for this post! By far the best post I’ve seen on explaining the nuances of staining wood. I am so glad I found this post and your blog. You can see clearly the wood’s color undertones (yellow, pink, green, neutral, red) but they aren’t nearly as pronounced. We came to picked Oak after looking into wax-based finishes (Bona, etc.) Dura Seal Quick Coat Penetrating Finish 171 Dark Walnut Hardwood Flooring Stain. hi, this thread was from five years ago. Hi Julia & Chris. Minwax recently came out with a Simply White stain and I’m in love with it! Useful helpful post. Chestnut, Jacobean, Coffee Brown, Special Walnut, Provincial, Early American (no polyurethane coating). My husband and my new contractor think I’m nuts. Very helpful. I am sure it has something to do with the particular piece of wood. What can be mixed with #2716 Dk Walnut penetrating stain, to bring out a touch of red. You guys did a fantastic job with this. It can be applied over any wood but is especially necessary when working with soft or porous woods like pine, alder, birch, and maple. Could you please help me choose the right one? Never saw this before. It absolutely helped me to decide on a stain color for our floors, and we will use conditioner, which I wasn’t aware was even an option! yes! There is not much worse than putting on the wrong stain, especially if you are working with dark ones. Love my pine floors! 141 Fruitwood* ... 171 Dark Walnut* 110/210 Neutral. In the process of building a house and the trim color really has me struggling. Do you have any recommendations? By the way, that article mentions Minwax Stain also. Let’s start with Jacobean. The finer the grit, the smoother the finish, and the less surface texture for stain to sit in- ergo less color. This is excellent! Anyway – thank you again! Nevertheless, it looks like we have a winner! Using on pallet wood, probably pine as yellow seems prominent. We applied it then wiped it off after about 2 minutes. The pine board looked the least natural with this stain. :) Thank you so much for this post!! Any cherry or red furniture I bleach before doing all the other steps. LOL. This is a fabulous post! Hooray for floor stain! Formulated to provide unsurpassed durability and simple maintenance. we love it too. We chose to experiment with this stain color because of its mid-range tint with red undertones. Very interesting! I was surprised how much I liked the poplar in the white stain, I would never have thought to try that, but it really calms down the purples and greens that poplar has, without making it look dull and boring. Still love the solid wood cabinets, still love the arrangement. I just sent them an example photo of something I like, but didn’t specify a stain. So, for example, dark walnut is better than jacobean (which has some red undertones). Thanks for sharing! Thank you! white or red ?? White Oak can’t take a bad picture. formId: '5d767f96afdf3e000f968472', I love wood refinishing, hope maybe someone finds this useful :). The white oak looks even, but the red oak looks like zebra stripes–although the dark walnut showed less contrast than the jacobean. Thanks for this post. Help! If there’s anything we don’t want, it’s for the floors to be too light. My suggestion would be to use a scrap piece of wood that is the same type that you want to treat, and test your different options. Did you sand the woods before staining them? Brilliant- thank you for doing the work . Thank you so much for doing this! Then came Dark Walnut. That’s so good to hear! White Oak has the most neutral undertones. Really! I’ve always read that you should use the pre-stain conditioner, but never really believed the hype. I just wanted to say thank you so much for taking the time to do this. Hi, I Am searching for best stain for cedar fence. Thoughts? Over time, clear stained maple goes from an almost birch white to a really deep yellow gold. Best practice would be to get a piece of walnut and do some tests. I see more red in the dW – am I correct? Thanks! 90% of my customers choose a slightly different color on other materials that isn’t flooring. Call us crazy, but the stain will be going throughout the house (see floor plan here), so we want to make sure it’s absolutely perfect. I’ve done several wood projects, but I was considering using birch plywood for the first time. Putting something on paper usually does change the color tone and it can’t really be judged until you see the real thing, especially since wood will soak some of it up. This experiment has been a great help! Gorgeous! So Dark Walnut it probably is… and I’ll save the white/light colored floors for my next house! That would be a lot of work but our house is small so it’s doable. Oh also, I came across your from The Lil House That Could. I know that Jacobean was also in the running at the time. Birch rocked Simply White and Golden Oak. We have been trying to pick a miniwax stain for birch cabinets going into our basement. This is very helpful and well organized, thank you! Naturals in a very red way. My only complaint is that you DID NOT WATERMARK YOUR PHOTOS!! : ). Love this post!! I am restoring a significantly damaged Gunn barrister bookcase….in oak….and your comparison has helped me finalize my choice! 10 Gifts I Got For My Girlfriends This Year, Faye’s Bedroom Transformation and her dream “Princess Bed”, https://woodimprove.com/best-wood-stains/#product1, http://www.hardwoodinfo.com/consumer/rediscovering-hardwoods/types-of-wood/. We put in red oak because our flooring guy had a bunch of it and we got a good deal. Thanks! This is SO and great and helpful- I seriously loved reading this and studying the results. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Have you found one color stain that makes them similar? I think the huge variation in poplar might drive me a little crazy, but birch does look awful stunning in those two dark stains. Thank You, Thank You Thank You for doing this. I wasn’t too crazy about it at first because I didn’t think it was dark enough. However, I became a big fan when we saw the sample on our floors. I’ve never used a pre-conditioner but after a few not so great results, I decided to do so in the future. Thanks for that. Thanks! 2. Was about to get a bunch of milled pine moulding to stain dark walnut, but now I’m leaning towards the white oak – the stain really brings out the grain in the oak. Thanks! This is a great post and helped me decide which stain to use on the twin bed my husband is making for our son! 140 Colonial Maple* 102/202 Nutmeg. Also wondering if there is much difference between Bona Jacobean and DuraSeal? Doing an oil based poly over them vs a water based. We finally had our floors refinished last summer to try to get them a similar color. Thank you so much! I assumed it was soft because it had the most trouble accepting stains. Should I layer a bit of white and with a gray that I wipe off quickly? Ended up going with red oak and golden oak stain and the color is exactly as seen in person. !function(d,s,id){var e, p = /^http:/.test(d.location) ? Awesome post. I’ll be 75 in January and am in the process of making my last big project – a daybed that will eventually be used as my casket. I assumed it was the quality of wood. It took down the intensity and gave it a softer, slightly aged look. Great post. :D I hated every single stain on both oaks! Lastly, we thought it would be beneficial to see all the same wood type with different stains in one picture. No wonder white oak is the HG of wood flooring. Great Post! This is another mid-range stain color, but with a more neutral base undertone. However since the top gets plenty of use I put on a coat of varathene. But then there is the world of bleaching! dark, not too light, with lots of variation My best guess is about $30 less coming out of my pocket which will cover door hinges, door pulls and the shelf pins….. Really appreciated it – you could totally make a series out of it! I tested Minwax Jacobean stain, Dark Walnut stain, Special Walnut stain, and a mixture of 1 part Dark Walnut stain to 1 part Special Walnut stain. Please be patient... We're looking up all of your individual pricing and inventory levels. When we looked at the swatches in the booklet, we really liked this stain. I wondered why the pine wood looks such a different color in the picture where you have all the pine boards next to each other vs. in the pictures with the Jacobean and Dark Walnut stains? Of course you didn’t do the two stains I’ve been wondering about (Provincial and Driftwood) but still ;-) Guess I will have to do my own small test for the stained shelves I’m installing in our wall nook. This really helped me determine the piece I am working on is red oak! You lucky duck :P. Thank you, I just stained my floors with Jacobean. I thought this this was the most helpful, comprehensive site for wood floor stains. This is one of the most helpful blog posts I’ve seen on stain colors. Dura Seal Quick Coat Stains are a premium quality penetrating finish that can be topcoated in 2 to 4 hours. They were applied and excess removed within about 3 minutes. Top to Bottom: Nutmeg, Provincial, Special Walnut, Jacobean. I’m considering using a dark stain, which will work better with the stone counter top color. I agree with Sarah! It’s a beautiful medium shade that doesn’t read yellow at all. Or 3 coats stain? I also tried with and without conditioner, which didn’t seem to make much difference with the darker samples. This is a really cool post. Do you think Provincial banister and spindles will look right with Dark Walnut stairs and floors? Anyway, it is so informative and so incredibly helpful. The Jacobean was a one of our choices, I’m leaning toward Ebony now with 2 coats. It turned out a very neutral, medium brown colour. At first I was planning on pine because it’s cheaper…just not sure which stain to use…then I thought I would spend a little more and get red oak…now I have come here and I’m not sure if I want poplar, white oak, or red oak. Also, professional pros (the ones who take their time to listen to you and do the job right) always water-pop the wood when using dark stains. Thanks!! window.fd('form', { I would like to figure out a way to make them look the same but really don’t like the pink red undertone . This is so useful!!! It is the matte-est sealer I have ever seen or used. Learn how your comment data is processed. This is a Medium video about 12 minutes. This is so helpful as we’re trying to pick a stain color for a piece of furniture. This will hopefully help you see how Pine, Birch, Poplar, White Oak and Red Oak’s undertones play with different stain undertones. Thanks for the inspiration. :D Thanks for the comparison – so useful!! I thought the pickled looked nice too. We’re so glad you stopped by, and we hope you decide to stick around for a while. Finding the Perfect Lamp for the Living Room and FINALLY Tackling the Honey Oak Game Cupboard at the Bottom of the Stairs. I’m having pine wood and can’t decide to have it painted white or go with a stain. Just wanted to say thank you. Oh no! Loved seeing all the side by side comparisons. We tested a few for ourselves but this is helping me to find some direction in what to try next. Without being in the space we can’t really say, but one thing I would do is find a piece of red oak that matches the finish of your banister etc. totally perfect sponsored post. DURA SEAL Quick Coat Penetrating Finish Jacobean 175. simply the best thing I’ve seen on how various stains work on various woods Thank you for doing this. Can’t usually see good stain variations anywhere online. Appreciate your help :). Love this post! I’m guessing Minwax sent you one directly since they sponsored this post? You can get a matte finish polycrylic and that often causes the least amount of change. Would it take that stain well? This was so helpful for me, and my most amateur endeavors. I was wondering how the oak would look with a stain – now I have a better idea! I really appreciate the effort put into this and the comparisons are really useful. I just want stained, modern looking doors. Prep- if you sand wood, the grit that you finish at will dramatically change how much stain is absorbed. I know I will always reference this post! Minwax Golden Oak. Thank you so much for doing this! Or a sort of gray stain that would really cut the yellow could work! They’re not bad and look nice but not my color of choice. Right now the jury is out regarding the pricing. Minwax Dark Walnut was the first stain color that I fell in love with when I first started woodworking. My wife and I have decided on Dark Walnut as well. And I thought the pickled looked good on red oak – you didn’t?! Minwax is my go to stain. I have some white oak chairs I bought half finished from an antiques place and stained dark walnut… they came out like a dream. And yes, the prestain saves the day on birch. You want some contrasts. If your floor is going to look blotchy, damaged, or like a wild animal skin, better to not even refinish. Thanks again. | MORE ABOUT GREG & ASHLEY |, © 2016 7th House on the Left. I really would like to cool down the warm undertones some, and I am wondering- do you think more coats of the white would do that? I’m afraid we wouldn’t be able to tell you which to choose – far too many factors involved and we’re not there to see any of them in person. Great article – one of the very best I’ve seen on the effects of Minwax stains on different woods. Thanks for doing this experiment and sharing! How many coats of stain did you put on the wood samples shown in the photos? It’s the perfect, medium-dark wood stain with golden highlights that show through the wood grain. I have red oak floor that we are considering staining to become a medium brown like yours! I would like to see an experiment in reducing contrast–both grain and defects, such as nail holes and gaps–to produce an attractive even dark tone. This helps a lot!! Love this! The pine looks SO MUCH better with the conditioner. I only wish you could have tested all of them. Wife, dog mom, graphic designer, lover of big hair, hater of laundry and loser of keys; Ashley Brown is a graphic designer and longtime interior design enthusiast. It’s one of their new stains. ft./gallon Number of Coats 1 to 2 VOC 550 Shelf Life 2 years Try reactivating it to view this content. Birch is a hardwood (both yellow and white) and rates a 4 out of 5 on the hardness scale. I love how classic / timeless it looks but…that white oak with Simply White stain definitely gives me the heart eyes. I have debating about what the difference a primer or conditioner will make, this was a big help! Thanks a lot for all the help! I’ve heard that using ebony obliterates contrast. which one you will prefer ? We’re in the process of refinishing our red oak floors and have searched what feels like the entirety of the internet for a post like this! Nov 30, 2014 - Red Oak with Jacobean Stain THIS IS THE ONE! Both of the oak species took on a sort of Cerused look I’m very into. We liked the extra-dark grain, but didn’t feel like the other browns were rich enough. 2. Such useful info! It dries quick and doesn’t yellow! Thanks so much for your help and for this wonderful post! Looks great! We are building a house and trying to choose stains for maple cabinets and pine beams and French doors. Our floors are … a maple color, I guess? Colors are shown on White Oak. Poplar looked awesome in almost every one except the Golden Pecan. This is a really amazing comparison, greats job!! They look too orangey for my liking which I find happens frequently with stains and now wonder if I can go over them in a neutral darker stain but it will be a major mess, time commitment and height bravery (as they are on high parts of our house). I’m going to give it a try. <3, Thank you SO much for this post!! I will definitely refer back to this in the future. This is so beyond helpful! Thanks so much for putting this together. Oh dear. So helpful with all of the images and great descriptions! What a great post! What do you think!? Minwax Dark Walnut. This is so helpful!! We literally just finished stripping and sanding down pine stairs that had been painted and coated in sand by the previous owners… yesterday. Turns out, it looks great with the right treatment. Exactly what I was looking for. Description. To give each wood the best chance at sporting stain, we started our study with Minwax’s Pre-Stain Wood Conditioner. containerEl: document.querySelector('#fd-form-5d767f96afdf3e000f968472') I do wish we could take it further :) I have a half dozen (or more) cans of Minwax! Its interesting because on White Oak, in our experience, the color is much lighter than what is shown in your post. We’re getting mixed messages from people…. Ooh, I could see that! Hi, I have sanded an old pine dresser that was coated years ago in an orangy shellac. I’m looking for a medium toned, neutral-ish stain (I guess). 3. Incredibly helpful! Your illustrations were fantastic and saved me from making a huge mistake. Really enjoyed this post! I personally prefer medium colors so I actually really like the medium stains best on the pine (although that birch is beautiful and I wish I was doing that haha). Is the Minwax conditioner a substitute for water-popping? I’ve been researching for weeks and driving myself nuts with my white oak choice. Think of all trim and stair parts as furniture. The pine turned more gray than anything. Riftsawn and quartersawn oak is gorgeous, but plainsawn needs to go away! They will never match but they are closer than before. My kitchen table is made of rosewood and the weathered oak stain appears very gray like driftwood, but on red and white oak the stain will take on more golden hues. Love it! I loved this post so much! I can’t thank you enough. Also was a polyurethane topcoat added which would yellow the stain some? In fact, it looked almost pinky gray. 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