Her marriage to a count, who was also a composer, seemingly did little to dampen Beethoven’s ardor. But curiously enough, it is precisely the same documents which shed a definitive light, in the negative sense, on Therese which bear witness to Beethoven's passionate love for her sister Josephine. [14], After Schmidt-Görg (1957) published 13 then-unknown love letters by Beethoven to Josephine Brunsvik, it became clear that the one to the "Immortal Beloved" was not the only love letter authored by him. Beethoven’s Immortal Beloved: Solving the Mystery is admirably and extensively footnoted, and Walden carefully lays out his case with both clarity and an incisive logical method. Prior to writing 'James and the Giant Peach,' 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory,' 'Matilda,' and more, Dahl was a member of the Air Force and involved in a covert spy operation. "[51] Solomon (1998, p. 229) quotes as supporting his case the Song "An die Geliebte" [To the Beloved] WoO 140, an autograph of which contains in Antonie's handwriting the remark: "Requested by me from the author on 2 March 1812. For a transcription of the German original, an English translation and helpful historical context, see, The letter's signature is "Mus. 162. 16.) [46] His hypothesis was founded on two major assumptions (or prerequisites): ad 1: Antonie arrived in Prague on 3 July 1812 after an arduous journey with husband, child and servant (and was registered there); she left at dawn the following morning: "Where did she have time that night for a tryst with Beethoven?" This was then also in response to the biography by Schindler (1840), refuting his hypothesis that Julie Guicciardi was the "immortal Beloved". … Die dilettantischen Verse haben ebenfalls Stammbuchcharakter. Tantalizing is the assumption, because, Absurd, they argue, is the assumption because of. Josephine Von Brunswik (left) and Antonie Brentano (right) are believed to be the top contenders to be Beethoven's "Immortal Beloved." But it greatly missed the mark, according to historians and scholars. With unprecedented access to the archives at the Beethoven House in Bonn, renowned Beethoven conductor and scholar Jan Caeyers expertly weaves together a deeply human and complex image of Beethoven… The daughter of prosperous Viennese merchants, her affair with Beethoven leaves her pregnant. Beethoven was known to love many women, and as his friend F.G. Wegeler once wrote, "Beethoven was never out of love." Beethoven the maestro, NOW with 3D sound derived from the Immortal Beloved. (Josephine Countess Brunsvik-Deym's Secret Revealed: New Results about her Relationship to Beethoven. This forgery fooled many scholars at the time: "The editors of 'Die Musik' submitted this Beethoven manuscript to many well-known experts, all of whom independently declared it to be genuine." 21.) Beethoven's love letters to his immortal beloved, 1812 L udwig van Beethoven (1770-1827) was a German composer and pianist. ), Rolland was in contact with Marianne Czeke, who seemed to have known quite a lot more about the relationship between Beethoven and the Brunsviks. On Maynard Solomon's Interpretations of Beethoven and Schubert. [Psychoanalysis and Historiocritical Method. Cooper's statement however that "To get to Jedlersee from Klosterneuburg, you have to cross the Kahlenberg." [Beethoven's sacred hands, whom I deeply admire, he is walking divinely among mortals, his elevated stature opposed to the world beneath.] Thomas-San-Galli then speculated (in 1910) that it might instead have been Teréz Brunszvik, who he thought could have (secretly) traveled to Prague. Doubts were raised by de Hevesy (1910), who ruled out Teréz Brunszvik,[20] and by Unger (1910) against Amalie Sebald. The possible years are therefore: 1795, 1801, 1807, 1812 or 1818. Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1987): "Beethoven and the Countess Josephine Brunswick. (Goldschmidt 1980, p. But arguments against Erdödy rest on geography. Beethoven's last will did not mention anything about the immortal beloved. One of them was the famous Heiligenstadt Testament, the other a … "[33] Schmidt-Görg (1957, p. 31) believed that with the last letter (which he still thought to have been written in 1807 – not 1809) and with Josephine's marriage to Baron Stackelberg (in 1810) the love relationship was terminated. © 2021 Biography and the Biography logo are registered trademarks of A&E Television Networks, LLC. The letter states that Beethoven had recently seen his beloved and was staying close enough to visit her again shortly after the letter was written—while records place Erdödy a great distance away from Teplitz that summer. Intimate friends of Beethoven, true, one and all; but loves? When she was widowed several years later, he pursued his case. Swafford, Jan: Beethoven: Anguish and Triumph. In: The Beethoven Newsletter 5/2, p. 29. Ever ours.” The doomed affair coincided with the start of one of the darkest periods in Beethoven’s life, during which he failed to compose a major work for several years. ist es doch wie ein Traum, [daß] er der Freund, der Vertraute unseres Hauses war – ein herrlicher Geist – warum nahm ihn meine Schwester J. nicht zu ihrem Gemahl als Witwe Deym? 'Ever thine. Intriguingly, both sisters’ diaries go nearly silent for much of the summer of 1812, when it’s believed Josephine was in Prague, which Beethoven visited on his way to Teplitz. Sebald was definitely not in Prague at the beginning of July 1812, and Cooper (2000, p. 416) consequently ruled her out as a candidate. 27, No. "I was so lucky to have been acquainted with Beethoven, intimately and intellectually, for so many years! Maternal affection made her forgo her own happiness. Beethoven had quite a lot of romances in his life. Early scholars trying to solve the riddle were stymied because while the letter is dated July 6 and 7, no year was included, making it hard to piece together when in his life it was written. Scholars have since this time been divided on the intended recipient of the Immortal Beloved letter. Amalie was a singer, notably at Berlin. A crucial figure in the transition between the Classical and Romantic eras in Classical music, he remains one of the most recognized and … [Beethoven's Immortal Beloved. He longs for them to be together, proposing an assignation at a nearby location known only as “K,” which historians believe was likely Karlsbad, now the Czech town of Karlovy Vary. ", Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1998): "Psychoanalyse und historisch-philologische Methode. 1. the woman must have been in Prague and Karlsbad around the time in question (like Beethoven); 2. she must have been closely acquainted (at least on very friendly terms) with Beethoven, at the time immediately before this event. Goldschmidt (1980, p. 15), "Nur im Negieren ist man in der Lage, zu eindeutigen Schlüssen zu gelangen: weder Giulietta Guicciardi noch Amalie Sebald oder Bettina Brentano können in Frage kommen, und nicht einmal Therese Brunsvik, die für eine lange Zeit ernsthaft als die Empfängerin des berühmten Liebesbriefess galt. (Solomon 1998, p. 219 f.) Goldschmidt showed that "for short stays, residents [as opposed to foreigners] were exempt from reporting requirements". When he delays in marrying her, she marries his younger brother, Kaspar Anton Karl (commonly known as Karl). Over the past twenty years, Walden has delved into the question of the identity of the Immortal Beloved. Beethoven may have been foolish when it came to love, but by all accounts, he was an exceedingly honorable man, leading many to doubt he would have carried on a passionate affair under his good friend’s nose. There has been many candidates, starting with Guilietta Guiccardi. Mutterliebe bestimmte sie – – auf eigenes Glück zu verzichten." "The flaw in this [Solomon's] methodology [in Support of Antonie] was that he established requirements that he knew only his candidate could meet. They were born for each other. ... Dilettante verses ... by a clumsy author, a real dilettante, a coffeehouse poet. (Beethoven arrived there two weeks later.). Eine Biographie [Beethoven: The Lonely Revolutionary. ... her reliability and truthfulness are today under a cloud. – Die Hand des Schicksals ruht düster auf mir – Ich sah nebst meinem tiefen Kummer auch noch die Entartung meiner Kinder und – fast – aller Muth wich von mir –!!! About a book published in America by the gifted novelist Gail S. Altman (from The Immortal Beloved Compendium: Everything About The Only Woman Beethoven Ever Loved - And Many He Didn't 0, who would follow soon after with another elaboration of a popular myth, namely the alleged deliberate poisoning of not only Beethoven, but also Napoleon and his son (Altman 1999). 182-185, p. 349, Walden (2002, 2011). In the film, Beethoven’s assistant goes in search of the “Beloved” after finding the letter following Beethoven’s death. Her wealthy parents disapproved, and she was eventually married off to a nobleman. Walden (2011, p. 5)[59] suggests that Bettina Brentano was Beethoven's "Immortal Beloved", based on the assumption that one of the two spurious letters by Beethoven to her is true: "If that letter to Bettina was genuine, it would prove conclusively that Bettina was the Immortal Beloved, but the original has not survived, and the authenticity is strongly doubted today. But after having a child out of wedlock, she did marry a commoner, with disastrous results. But the truth may never be known for certain. Zu gleicher Zeit war Josephine unglüklich! The discovery of Josephine Brunsvik (1957 to 1999), Antonie Brentano and other alternatives (1955 to 2011). Refuted by Goldschmidt (1980), p. 325 f. Astonishingly, this book was published in 1964 in German translation even though the "13 Letters" (translated by Anderson, 1961) had meanwhile been published, clearly indicating a very heterosexual drive in the composer! (on 24 February 1984), Dahlhaus stated: "Daß Beethovens berühmter 'Brief an die unsterbliche Geliebte' ... an Josephine von Brunswick gerichtet war, steht inzwischen fest." Ever ours.” So Beethoven closed a July 1812 letter to his “immortal beloved,” a woman whose identity has remained one of the great mysteries of classical music. Even though her … She too was in Prague in early July 1812, before traveling to Karlsbad the same week Beethoven wrote the “Beloved” letter. Her husband was as close to Beethoven as she was, and both Brentanos remained friendly with Beethoven until his death. This page was last edited on 31 December 2020, at 17:58. What he needed was a wife, that's for sure. [New Documents about Beethoven and Josephine Countess Deym. Very much a romantic, the identity of Beethoven’s ‘immortal beloved’ has alluded scholars since 1827. It is wildly unlikely that Johanna was the immortal beloved. In essence, Beethoven has died and has left everything to his "immortal beloved." Josephine's intimate friend, her soul mate! In the film Immortal Beloved, written and directed by Bernard Rose, the Immortal Beloved is Beethoven's sister-in-law Johanna Reiss, with whom he had a long and frustrating legal battle over the custody of his nephew Karl van Beethoven. Singer Amalie Sebald matches the timeline and location of the letter, which was written while Beethoven was on a physician-ordered medical retreat in the Bohemian spa town of Teplitz, now Teplice. Immortal Beloved refers to a 10-page unsent love letter found in Beethoven’s estate following his death in 1827. Amalie SEBALD (1787 - 1846). Antonie Brentano and her husband were close friends with Beethoven, Photo: ullstein bild/ullstein bild via Getty Images, The daughter of an Austrian diplomat, Antonie “Toni” Brentano was deeply involved in the arts and became very close with Beethoven around 1810. … Where is any evidence whatsoever of true romantic love for even such dear ones as Marie Erdödy or Dorothea von Ertmann, Therese Malfatti or Antonie Brentano? A picture of Brentano, originally thought to depict Anna Marie Erdödy, was found in the drawer with the “Beloved” letter. A piano pupil of Beethoven’s, Dorothea von Ertmann, has been cited as a possible contender, but although he dedicated a sonata to her, their relationship seems to have been non-romantic. [1:35] MALTZ: The famously temperamental Beethoven never married, but, between July 6th and 7th in 1812, Beethoven wrote a three-part letter. When Karl developed tuberculosis just a few years after marrying Johanna, he initially dictated a will giving sole custody of his son, Karl, to Beethoven, not Johanna. Not enough: "Bekker made it then public that his Beethoven letter was a forgery. ", Beahrs, Virginia Oakley (1988): "The Immortal Beloved Riddle Reconsidered.". ", Beahrs, Virginia (1986): "The Immortal Beloved Revisited. Beethoven is portrayed here as a somewhat spoiled and very troubled man - troubled beyond just his deafness. "… requirements …, that the Immortal Beloved be a woman closely acquainted with Beethoven during the period in question." "… es war mir leid, lieber V. den letzten Abend in Prag nicht mit ihnen zubringen zu können, und ich fand es selbst für unanständig, allein ein Umstand den ich nicht vorhersehen könnte, hielt mich davon ab." ", Beck, Dagmar & Herre, Grita (1979): "Anton Schindlers fingierte Eintragungen in den Konversationsheften." Beethoven’s romantic life was rocky, and he never married. A Biography]. [49], ad 2: There are no love letters from or to Antonie, and no other documents supporting the possibility of a love relationship with Beethoven, there is only a letter by Antonie to her brother-in-law Clemens, where she expressed her "admiration" of Beethoven:[50] "At what point this worship was transformed into love is not yet known. (Josephine to Beethoven, Winter 1806/7, in Schmidt-Görg 1957, p. [But] many Beethoven scholars did not want to believe this, and in many newspapers and journals ... expressed their conviction that this was undoubtedly a valuable genuine document." One was a letter, written to his brothers in 1802 and later known as the Heiligenstadt Testament, in which Beethoven lamented his increasing deafness and wrote of his despair and depression over the impact the infirmity would have on his musical abilities. ], Tellenbach, Marie-Elisabeth (1993/1994): "Psychoanalysis and the Historiocritical Method: On Maynard Solomon's Image of Beethoven. sei." The entire letter is written on 10 small pages, in Beethoven's rather inconsistent handwriting. In it, he writes of his unconditional love and devotion to someone he refers to as his Unsterbliche Geliebte, or Immortal Beloved.He never sent this letter. [2][3] The apparently unsent letter was found in the composer's estate following his death, after which it remained in the hands of Anton Schindler until his death, was subsequently willed to his sister, and was sold by her in 1880 to the Berlin State Library, where it remains today. Soon after Beethoven’s death … (Beethoven's "Immortal Beloved": the Riddle Solved.). Two of three letters by Beethoven to Bettina (and published by her) are generally considered forgeries (like similar letters by Goethe she published), although Walden devotes an entire Chapter setting out evidence in support of the letter's authenticity. Beahrs, Virginia (1990): "My Angel, My All, My Self": A Literal Translation of Beethoven's Letter to the Immortal Beloved. Although all have been advanced as Beethoven's unknown Immortal Beloved, the assessment is unsupported by the record or by any known correspondence. The letter's unnamed recipient — Beethoven's "Immortal Beloved" — remains a mystery, and continues to generate debate. And Karl is actually his son, not his nephew! And regarding Karlsbad: "It is possible that the letter arose from a ... meeting with a woman who informed Beethoven that she was going to Karlsbad and then failed to carry out her declared intention." Once again, money got in the way. Thayer thought the letter must have been written around 1806-07. She would have been happier with him than with Stackelberg. Ever ours.' (A Letter by Christoph Baron von Stackelberg to Josephine Brunsvik-Deym-Stackelberg.). Two specialists from the Jane Austen Society of North America share intriguing highlights of the author's life, career and literary impact. Strangely enough, the enigma of who his mysterious mistress was adds to the poignancy of this romantic story of unrequited love. The Immortal Beloved (German "Unsterbliche Geliebte") is the addressee of a love letter which composer Ludwig van Beethoven wrote on 6–7 July 1812 in Teplitz. In real life, Schindler alleged that Guicciardi was the most likely candidate. Regardless, it was clearly of great importance, as he kept it with him until his death, despite a peripatetic career during which he moved, on average, once a year. At the same time Josephine was unhappy! Josephinens Haus- und Herzensfreund! They were born for each other, and if both were still alive, they would be united. 48. Der einsame Revolutionär. The rhyming children's book writer only had to look in the mirror to find his anti-Christmas muse. "[52] The background to this: "In November 1811, we see Beethoven writing a newly composed song with the heading 'An die Geliebte' [To the Beloved] into the album of the Bavarian Court singer Regina Lang. Beethoven once threw marriage proposal on Therese Malfatti, which got rejected. The two candidates favored by most contemporary scholars are Antonie Brentano[5] and Josephine Brunsvik. However, Schindler’s biography is full of inventions by the author, and this is one of them. Beethoven dedicated a new work to Brentano later that year, “An die Geliebte,” which can be translated as “To the Beloved.” The original score contains an inscription, believed to be in Brentano’s writing, in which she had asked Beethoven to compose it for her. (Steblin 2007, p. 180). "[44] They then argue: Viele Beethoven-Forscher wollten dies aber nicht glauben und gaben in Tages- und Fachzeitschriften ihrer Überzeugung Ausdruck, daß es sich zweifellos um ein wertvolles echtes Stück handelt.] [27], Editha and Richard Sterba (1954), using psychoanalysis, argued for Beethoven's nephew Karl as the "Immortal Beloved". This, together with interviews of some of the Brunsvik descendants, led her to the conclusion that Therese must have been the "Immortal Beloved."[18]. Beethoven's "Immortal Beloved" letter, found in a secret drawer in his desk, ran 10 pages, Photo: Universal History Archive/Universal Images Group via Getty Images. [40], Again Therese on Beethoven: "How unhappy, with such intellectual talent. After years of financial and emotional turmoil, Brunsvik died in 1821. Her involvement and conviction in a subsequent embezzlement scheme—at almost the same time as the “Beloved” letter was written—almost certainly heightened Beethoven’s dislike. She was a happily married wife and mother ... her candidacy, which includes the improbable scenario of a 'ménage à trois' in Karlsbad, makes no psychological sense." Who was the woman who so besotted Ludwig van Beethoven that he was compelled to pen an infamously passionate and fervid love letter that has stood the test of time? This Immortal Beloved letter by Beethoven is dated Monday July 6th. (p. xv) "Tellenbach ... too has unfortunately never appeared in English translation." (Cooper 1996, p. 18)[57], However, Altman's suggestion that the "Immortal Beloved" was Marie Erdödy was shown to be "impossible" by Cooper (1996). Elaborated by Goldschmidt (1980). (Solomon 1998, p. 461, n. There was also a forged Beethoven letter by Paul Bekker in Die Musik,[22] But it was already shown to be a hoax by Newman (1911) –- a last-ditch effort to salvage the discredited Guicciardi hypothesis. (, "... les nombreuses lettres qu'il écrira à Antonina marquent une amitié profonde mais presque cérémonieuse à force d'être réservée, et Beethoven semble toujours considérer Franz, Antonia et leurs enfants comme un ensemble undivisible." Julie “Giulietta” Guicciardi entered Beethoven’s life in the late 1790s. After his death in 1827, the following love letter was found amongst the personal papers of Ludwig van Beethoven, penned by the composer over the course of two days in July of 1812 while staying in Teplice. Beethoven's love letter is very famous and often quoted in literary media as well as television, movies, and commercials. "I would have to violate sacred bonds if I gave in to your request – Believe me – that I, by doing what is my duty, suffer the most – and that surely noble motives were guiding my actions." ), "Ohne schlüssige Beweise des Gegenteils wird man sich nicht mehr voreilig von der zunehmend begründeten Annahme trennen wollen, daß die 'Unsterbliche Geliebte' schwerlich eine andere als die 'Einzig Geliebte' war." Some historians have surmised that Beethoven fell deeply in love with Therese Malfatti, cousin to a close friend his, and even contemplated proposing in 1810. [29], Marek (1969) argued the case for Dorothea Ertmann.[30]. Barbara Maranzani is a NY-based writer and editor, focusing on American and European history. [6] Other candidates who have been conjectured, with various degrees of mainstream scholarly support, are Julie ("Giulietta") Guicciardi,[7] Therese Brunsvik,[8] Amalie Sebald,[9] Dorothea von Ertmann,[10] Therese Malfatti,[11] Anna Maria Erdődy,[12] Bettina von Arnim,[13] and several others. (Steblin 2007, p. 148) Solomon (1972, p. 577) admits: "There is no proof that Beethoven and Antonie met in Prague." ep. These can be summarized into two important items: "A new way of looking at old evidence confirms that Josephine was Beethoven's one and only 'Immortal Beloved'. Her name was brought forward by Beethoven’s secretary and first biographer, Anton Schindler. Josephine's candidacy as the "Immortal Beloved" was contested by Solomon (1988), mainly in response to Massin (1955, 1970), Goldschmidt (1980) and Tellenbach (1983). [16] But research by Tellenbach (1983) indicated that her cousin Franz von Brunsvik may have suggested Giulietta to Schindler, to distract any suspicion away from his sister Josephine Brunsvik, with whom Beethoven had been hopelessly in love from 1799 to ca. As a professional writer, I can admire Beethoven’s prose as few can. Als den linkischen Verfasser … von einem wirklichen Dilettanten, dem Kaffeehaus-Literaten Joseph Ludwig Stoll." "[34], Riezler (1962, p. 46), still very much a "standard" German biography of Beethoven, followed Kaznelson regarding Josephine being his "only love", likewise Dahlhaus (1991, p. 247) who concluded that "internal evidence" points to Josephine. "[60] Meredith (2011, p. xxii), in his Introduction, has reviewed the debate over the major candidates and he believes that "Walden's proposal merits unbiased consideration". (Forbes 1967, p. 1090), reprinted in Goldschmidt (1980). Beethoven and Johanna had a famously awful relationship, and he had strongly disapproved of her marrying his brother. "November 1811 sehen wir Beethoven ein neuverfaßtes Lied mit der Überschrift 'An die Geliebte' der bayerischen Hofsängerin Regina Lang ins Stammbuch schreiben. He developed a series of romantic attachments, which may have remained unrequited and unconsummated. autogr. Why has the Beethoven Immortal Beloved letter captured imaginations? Many scholars believe his “Für Elise” was written in her honor. Munich: Beck 2012. Cooper, Barry (1996): "Beethoven's Immortal Beloved and Countess Erdödy: A Case of Mistaken Identity?". (Meredith 2011, p. x), Beahrs (1993, p. 183 f.) supported Josephine: "Was there for him in fact … one deep and lasting passion for a certain dear one, marriage to whom was precluded, not by psychological inhibitions of the inner man, but by prohibitive heart-breaking externals? (Jean and Brigitte Massin 1955, p. (. The cycle sets excerpts from Beethoven's letter of 6–7 July 1812. ", Schindler (1840). La Mara (1909) published Teréz Brunszvik's memoirs, which show her full of admiration and adoration of Beethoven. ], Schmidt-Görg, Joseph (1969): "Neue Schriftstücke zu Beethoven und Josephine Gräfin Deym." released april 24, 1996 ℗ 1982, 1987, 1988, 1996 sony bmg music entertainment (p) 1984 sony music entertainment (japan) inc., (p) 1994 sony classical, a division of sony entertainment holdings gmbh "Beethoven! (p. xvii). ... Ich habe Stackb zu liebe [mich] physisch zugrunde gerichtet indem ich ... noch so viele Kummer und Krankheit durch ihn zugezogen habe." Goldschmidt (1980), p. 235. [21] A summary of the older literature can be found in Forbes (1967, pp. It is like a dream, that he was the friend, the confidant of our house – a beautiful mind! 2] to her), but was aware that without a title of nobility he couldn't hope to marry a countess (see Steblin 2009). (Therese's Diary, 4 February 1846, in Schmidt-Görg 1957, p. Beahrs, Virginia (1993): "Beethoven's Only Beloved? Ever mine. My estimate is ... in the fall of 1811. ), Solomon's hypothesis was contested by Goldschmidt (1980), Tellenbach (1983, 1987, 1988, 1993/1994, 1998), Beahrs (1972, 1986, 1988, 1993), Dahlhaus (1991), Pichler (1994), Altman (1996), Meredith (2000), Steblin (2007), Walden (2011), Caeyers (2012), and Swaffort (2014). Sie wäre glücklicher gewesen als mit St[ackelberg]. (Therese's Diary, March 1848, in Goldschmidt 1980, p. (Josephine's Diary, June 1812, in Steblin 2007, p. What is this, Twilight? Before, he did not live in Vienna, and he states the fact that he lives there in his letter. (Antonie to Clemens, 26 January 1811, in Goldschmidt 1980, p. 524), "Den 2tn März, 1812 mir vom Author erbethen.". (Goldschmidt 1980). er ist gefühllos für bittende in der Noth." [That Beethoven's famous "Letter to the Immortal Beloved" ... was addressed to Josephine von Brunsvik, is now a well established fact.]. "[56], Altman (1996) "demonstrates, as indeed Tellenbach has done, that much of the basis for the claims of Antonie's supporters consists of distortions, suppositions, opinions, and even plain inaccuracies." Zu Maynard Solomons Beethoven- und Schubert-Deutungen." Ever mine. "… da Giulietta ihre Affären nicht verheimlichte…" [… since Giulietta did not cover up her affairs…] (Tellenbach 1983, p. 17), (the "Louis" mentioned by Therese in her diary was in fact Count Louis Migazzi), "The tone of the notes to Amalie Sebald in September, 1812, is incompatible with that of the letter to the 'Immortal Beloved'." ich will die Kinder nie von mir lassen. The letter was addressed to "My Angel...", but as the term "Immortal Beloved" (appearing only once towards the end of the letter) was unique in Beethoven's vocabulary, it has been used ever since. Josephine expressed her clear intention to go to, Albrecht, Theodore (2009): "Anton Schindler as destroyer and forger of Beethoven's conversation books: A case for decriminalization.". The date of the "Immortal Beloved" letter –- 6/7 July 1812 -– has meanwhile been firmly established, not only by watermarks and references,[23] but also by a later letter by Beethoven to Rahel Varnhagen, which suggests he must have met his "Immortal Beloved" on 3 July 1812: "I am sorry, dear V., that I could not spend the last evening in Prague with you, and I myself found it impolite, but a circumstance I could not foresee prevented me. Beloved ” — remains a mystery, and both Brentanos remained friendly with Beethoven her. 'Immortal Beloved. `` “ Beloved ” is wrote the “ Immortal ''. Who was also a composer, seemingly did little to dampen Beethoven ’ s death … from that flowed possibilities... Why has the Beethoven Newsletter 5/2, p. 159, starring Gary as. 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